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Re: Bruntingthorpe Test day ?

Postby Tony Smith » Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:05 pm

simontaylor wrote:I hear rumours that GTAs are faster than 610s.


Er the GTAs made mincemeat of the A610s. 4 fastest cars and by a margin :0).
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Re: Bruntingthorpe Test day ?

Postby clee » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:51 pm

Lardy-lardy-lardy :thinking

It very simple.You just have to lose pounds...of one sort or another :up
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Re: Bruntingthorpe Test day ?

Postby Dave Williams » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:44 pm

GTA drivers are leaner meaner from lack of power steering...it's about the only exercise I get.

and from sweating away (less likely to have AC)



Let's see the stats !
Were the cars weighed with drivers in ??
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Re: Bruntingthorpe Test day ?

Postby The Saint » Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:08 pm

yep, as you can see in the photos..
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Re: Bruntingthorpe Test day ?

Postby clee » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:23 pm

Dave Williams wrote:Let's see the stats !



Safe to say Mr Smith needs to alter his sig ........5th...6th... ?? Only a V8 can save him now :super
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Re: Bruntingthorpe Test day ?

Postby BIG_MVS » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:44 pm

Standard A610 beats Standard GTA every day of the week. Just check all the magazine figures back in the day, what can't speak can't lie.

Modified is different kettle of fish. How did the uprated red 610 get on? Thought that was 320 bhp?
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Re: Bruntingthorpe Test day ?

Postby clee » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:56 pm

Yeh ...but ...GTA is the better car for shits and giggles...If I want to transport my golf clubs quickly then A610 FTW :Butt
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Re: Bruntingthorpe Test day ?

Postby Tony Smith » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:54 pm

clee wrote:
Dave Williams wrote:Let's see the stats !



Safe to say Mr Smith needs to alter his sig ........5th...6th... ?? Only a V8 can save him now :super


It is changed , glad to see the bar being raised. Be back with 2 cars for the next one hopefully. Remember I have the same engine in my black car as Dave Miles - with Faulksie super spool turbo so should be right back up there. I was low boost when I set those times originally so plenty more to come out of that car. I won't talk about the V8 until its done I know you get antsy ;0)
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Re: Bruntingthorpe Test day ?

Postby clee » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:58 pm

BIG_MVS wrote:Standard A610 beats Standard GTA every day of the week. Just check all the magazine figures back in the day, what can't speak can't lie.


Magazines do lie .....big time .
On paper it should be pretty close given claimed power and weights but lets see ? You up for a std v std test ?
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Re: Bruntingthorpe Test day ?

Postby clee » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:09 pm

Tony Smith wrote:
clee wrote:
Dave Williams wrote:Let's see the stats !



Safe to say Mr Smith needs to alter his sig ........5th...6th... ?? Only a V8 can save him now :super


It is changed , glad to see the bar being raised. Be back with 2 cars for the next one hopefully. Remember I have the same engine in my black car as Dave Miles - with Faulksie super spool turbo so should be right back up there. I was low boost when I set those times



+ it's very comfy ;)

I'll stick with the used 100k 2.5 engine....Renix....T3 ..and MoFo/Ratty magic :pray

It's great to see where we all are now from the last time .Lots of people attacking things in various ways and all pushing the cars ever faster .
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Re: Bruntingthorpe Test day ?

Postby MFaulks » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:17 pm

simontaylor wrote:Hats off to every one that managed to get there in a working Alpine.
Sure looks like it was a great day out.


Good point Simon, and thinking about it there is a few more GTAs to get together in the mix that would be fun, yours, Cedric, Will, JV, Darren, Tony in a turbo &/or monster atmo etc ard the ones I can think of... certainly another session there, and could be all GTAs :-)
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Re: Bruntingthorpe Test day ?

Postby BIG_MVS » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:06 pm

No need for a test, I've had 20 + GTA's and 2 A610's and trust me the 610 is quicker. When I had both it took 15 mins in the A610 to get to the Golf Club and 17 mins in the GTA, :Butt
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Re: Bruntingthorpe Test day ?

Postby Dave Williams » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:29 pm

Did you have both cars in case you got a hole in one?
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Re: Bruntingthorpe Test day ?

Postby Tony Smith » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:03 am

Martin seems a bit tetchy about his slow A610 :0) . Standard car undoubtedly comfortably faster but you will never be able to modify one to beat a GTA that's been modified because of the weight difference . Whatever a 610 can be modified to, just drop the same engine in a GTA shell and its 10% faster :0).
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Re: Bruntingthorpe Test day ?

Postby mettersl » Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:30 am

Tony...that's the truth, you can't beat physics. Less weight, same power, same layout, same drag, same map and Ecu will always be quicker.
Tim Jeffreys has gone some way to closing the gap by removing weight from his 610, but you can't remove the metal in the nose for crash resistance on the 610.
When are the results going to be published? Is it a magazine embargo or something...having the results would help the rest of us understand it all better than this dance of the fans.....
Did I get the hint that Daves twin turbo beat the single turbos?
That car should have a unique advantage of quicker spool than a single monster turbo. Would be nice to see if that theoretical advantage came through.
Looking forward to hearing more....
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